IN this episode we sit down with Dr. Leo Guida from the Australian Marine Conservation Society for a long, open conversation about sharks, how they intersect with fishing and people using our waterways, and the real risks involved.
We talk through the data and trends, and importantly how effective current management strategies actually are when humans and sharks share the same spaces.
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Zac Panaretos catches up with chefs and fishos to chat about catching, cooking, and sustainable seafood.
Dallas Abel loves the ocean, especially fish.
He wants to give back, minimising waste with his new brand Ofishal, leather goods made from fish skins that more than pass the eye test.
The story of how he arrived where he is today is worth a listen in itself.










